Top reasons why Macs suck.
So I have grown to hate Mac. I have gotten tired of those who have no idea how to use a computer spouting off that there Mac is better then a PC (Windows or Linux). So I have decided to put together this top list of why a PC is better then a Mac. Enjoy and long live Linus Torvald and Bill Gates.
- Macs are ridiculously over priced.
- Macs have to have such high prices because they share a very small market of the computer market; the monopoly of course belongs to Windows. For example, you can get a $500 Compaq Presario notebook or a MacBook with the same specs for $1200.
- PCs are expandable and upgradeable
- PCs have a larger cross section of part available that are as good if not better then those provided by the manufacture.
- AAC sounds like shit, and so does mp3
- AAC sounds more like your listening to music at a dance club. Way to much treble and bass not enough mid range sounds. You really have no other choice in codec’s. So your pretty much screwed.
- Options
- With a PC you get options. Don’t like Windows Media Player then try VLC, don’t like that then try something else. With a Mac there well iTunes. The biggest pill o’ crap I have ever seen. Always screws up your file structure. Pain in the ass to work with when trying to copy over files to the iPod. All in all it just sucks.
- Customizable
- You really can’t do any cool customizations to a Mac. You can what change out the Apple colors. With a PC you can do sweet mods like shoving a computer into a pumpkin just for the hell of it, or even making your laptop look like the souls of the dead are trying to escape. You never see any of this stuff for a Mac because it would be a waste to try. Be out $2k just to do something small, and if it breaks well your out. With a PC you would maybe spend $400-$500 on a base computer. If you have monitors.
- Maximizing
- In windows when you maximize it take up the screen. On a Mac it leaves holes and gaps everywhere. All this means is when I click some place I’m more likely to pull up another window that I didn’t want. I don’t know about you but at any give time I have probable 8 windows open and that’s not counting my FireFox tabs. And when you get on a roll writing some code the last thing you want is to click something and have it appear right in your face and make you loose your momentum.
- Closing Programs
- When you go to close a program on a Mac it doesn’t really close. Whats this lead to wasted CPU processes and resources. When I close something I want it to close not just sit there.
- Alt-Tab(command-tab)
- When using alt-tab on a Mac it only shuffles the minimized programs not the current displaying programs. So what if I got 5 chats open and I want to switch. You take this and the closing programs and you got a pain in the ass as well to try and switch quickly between programs.
- Too many command keys
- Function, control, alt, option, and command (which used to be called open apple and is sometimes referred to by its symbol). Which one do I use to right-click again? Which one makes the delete button delete? Surely we can get rid of one or two of these.
- No dedicated Page Up, Page Down, Home, and End keys
- Enough said. How can you not have those keys. If you work in a terminal at all they are so nice to have, or if you have to go through pages of documents. You just can’t have them.
- Clock sucks
- It really sucks. Sun 10:00 AM. I want to know the date – I know it’s Sunday, for crying out loud. Maybe I can change the format. Let’s go look. Nope, but I can add seconds or flashing separators. Who needs the date when you can make those colons flash?
- (My Linux clock not only shows me some useful information, but I can also get a quick glimpse of the calendar by clicking it. Sorry Mac, but the Linux clock kicks your clock’s ass.)
- Safari Sucks
- Safari was released three years ago. I still can’t tab to a select list. But, to be fair, that’s probably really hard to do.
- GAMES
- This would be my number one reason I hate the Mac. There are zero games. Yet alone you really have shit for graphics processing to handle the games. The last real game was World of Warcraft that you could play on the Mac and even then WOW disappointed me (Longtime EQ player, would take me pages to describe my disappointment.). Personal I would want to be able to play a game on a computer that I paid $2000 for being that the tower I got now was that much and I have dual screens and at the time on of the best graphics cards on the market, and it looks way cooler then any of that Mac crap.
Ok, that is just a small list of what I have compiled. Some of these are mine some of them are from other people on the web.
Just a footnote to all of you who may want to correct some of this “If I have to go through menus to enable options and to navigate to places it still sucks.” Also if you want to brag about how much better your Mac is then My PCs learn to use a computer first with out the assistance of tool tips an all that stuff programmed in for the beginners. I mean be able to sit down at a command prompt and know what your doing. I want to be able to say “I want you to find in side of a file bared some were on the hard drive the like “Macs Suck”.” And with out thinking about it you can type it right in, and don’t come back to me with well my Mac doesn’t get viruses. Well either does my Windows and by Ubuntu, but that might be because I actual know how to use a computer. I know that well this email that say “Re: Hi” from: ashdfg@asdh.com is most likely something I shouldn’t be bothering with.
Well that’s it. If you want to rant, rant otherwise make the switch to the better OS. Make it Linux.
Thanks goes out to: themagain, mjd420Nova, kersen, and Chris Shiflett
http://shiflett.org/archive/196
http://forums.pcworld.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12683










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Nahtass said,
March 1, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Your too nice.
Paul said,
July 28, 2007 at 11:25 pm
Macs have their share of problems, but most of the stuff you’re ranting about is either your personal opinion, or just flat out wrong. Macs are (and have been for a while) price-equivalent with other OEMs offering, there are simply so cheapo Macs. DIY machines are ALWAYS cheaper than any OEM, you just can’t get a legal OSX license without a mac. As for the rest of your rant, maybe you could stand to do some research first: VLC runs on OSX (you can tell because the screencap on their front page is from OSX), full-size Mac keyboards DO have the keys you say they don’t and there are Mac casemods.
I don’t particularly care what type of PC you run, but don’t expect to lie and bullshit without getting called on it.
Gerhardus said,
August 9, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Hi, a s an ex mac er I have to agree with a lot you say. Mac users as I was actually don’t know much about computers. They know about, a mother board, it’s somewhere in there. They know about ram, let’s get some. They know very little else. Let’s not even get into upgrade-ability and the great choice of add-on programs available for PC. Then is the price issue. For years Mac abused it’s position by over charging. Now they’ve come out with these fancy little I-macs with very little upgrade possibilities etc. Dude I’m with you on this one, all I want you to do is spell check your doc before you post.
Cyan said,
September 11, 2007 at 4:48 am
You might want to visit this link. It very nicely sums up every PC user’s experience with Mac fanboys.
Cyan said,
September 11, 2007 at 4:48 am
oops… here’s the link:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant
Doubez said,
November 13, 2007 at 8:20 pm
I agree with your artical 99.9% MACS SUCK. I build computers for a living. The only thing that I would not agree on is the game field. Your right, the NEW mac games suck, the old ones rock, like MANTRA, SNOOD, and TASKMAKER
BUY A PC!!!
jayb said,
January 11, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Good list. My feelings are the same. I dont know which I dislike more — macs, or mac users. Its hard to decide between the two.
jayb said,
January 11, 2008 at 11:53 pm
cyan, oh my god, that is the best link ever.
Peanut Foot said,
March 9, 2008 at 5:37 pm
“For example, you can get a $500 Compaq Presario notebook or a MacBook with the same specs for $1200.”
Not true. A $500 Presario comes with…
-1 GB of RAM
-A 1.73 GHz Processor
-802.11.b/g
-80 GB hard drive
-$100 worth of extra software.
A $1200 MacBook comes with…
-2 GB of RAM
-A 2.4 GHz Processor
-802.11.n and Bluetooth
-160 GB hard drive
-$600 of extra software
-Built in camera and microphone
gdvsbp said,
March 25, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Well in that case, a $1200 Compaq Presario nets you all that plus a gig of ram and another 90 gig worth of storage. Anyway, check the date this was posted. At that time, he was absolutely correct. I’m sure they’ve got their merits, but, besides memory management, I haven’t found a single thing that would make anything better in any way. Considering how “unique” they hype their products up to be, it’s ridiculous how little the users can actually do that isn’t forced upon them.
Bryant said,
March 28, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Im sorry but a lot of this information is incorrect and purely based on personal opinon.
1. Of course Mac’s are priced higher than PC’s but it pays off well…they have way better resell value. For instance after having a mac for several years maybe you want to upgrade to a newer one so just go to ebay you can still find a buyer willing to pay around 400$! for a powerbook g4 keep in mind that that the last G4′ were mad in 05!.Besides the OS is definitly worth the extra cash you might not agree on this but you cant disagree with the better resell value.
2.Macs in general cant all be upgraded but the Mac Pro can sure its way expensive but hey their upgradeable. Ill give you the upperhand on this one.
3. Who says you have to listen to everything in AAC? or MP3? its not like the average listener will notice besides WMA isnt all the great either. I like OGG Vorbis among other codecs but thats just me and their are plenty of free plugins available to able to play them on mac’s or PC’s for that matter
4.What makes you think itunes is the ony audio player available for mac’s ? you sir have obviously made to effort to get your fact straight. VLC is availabe for OS X among many others hell you can even instal WMP 9 on em if you want to play some WMA OR WMV
5.This one is just stupid. what exactly prevents a mac user to make a “cool mod” with their computer? “shoving a PC into a pumpkin for the hell of it ” HOW exactly would a mac break if this was to be tried ? You just couldnt think of another one of your stupid reasons so you just repeated the fact that macs are more expensive and welll….just look at my answer to #1 dumbass
6.You obviously dont know about the little trick called stretching the window as tall and as wide as youd like buy using the mouse to drag and pll the right corner of any window
7.It doesnt really close? WTF? its called going up to the the programs window and clicking on quit dumbass…jeez you are one stupid individual
8.Im not so sure about this one since im not on OS X at the moment im on OS 9
but hey what the hell ill give you this one , macs arent perfect and I suppose this could be a reason why macs are inferior to PC’s. The only 100% valid one so far…
9.Function?where the hell are you seeing this button? lies! and BS I telll you . alt and option are the same button which only leaves command button and control not very hard to memorize that control and click is right click, or is JR. forgetfull and stupid? I guess so. And this one is just crazy but have you thought that maybe the delete button is the delete button? goodamn you are retarded
10. HEy sherlock have you ever even seen a freakin mac keyboard ? they do have dedicated Page Up,Page down,Home,and End keys ! and even if they didnt well why dont you be a thinker and i dont know maybe use a diffrent keyboard if you dont like appples keyboards.
11.Clock ? is that really why you dont use a mac? wow you are ignorant . but dont worry my friend doesnt drive his million dollar ferrari around because it doesnt have an A/C …so your kind is not alone
12.IF you dont like Safari then dont use it dumbass based on your other reason I read that you use firefox well jackass they make a mac version of firefox too.
13.Zero games? wow youre a really good liar there are more games I can play on my mac than i can on my cousins PC even though he has a alienware gaming PC. How so? well let me explain it to you since you dont know anything…add up all the games out their for PC and the thousands of games for mac and you end up with more games playable with my mac than with a PC because macs ave their respectable amounts of games available plus all the games I can run under boootcamp . This is why I love My Mac
And just for the record these are all FACTS not just opinions like your crap. Anways havve a good day….PC user
will N. said,
April 4, 2008 at 3:17 pm
ok i hate macs soo much but like you have to admit that the mac skin and stuff and like the themes are great, but they dont run as well as pcs do that is just the facts. and ur right u cant really close a program. like the first time that i used a mac it was running so slow because someone forgot to tell me that u have to click the top right and then say quit, sure the also have a built in camera, but that is like 20$ to add tht onto a pc. macs are just different than pc they have all the same programs mostly
ichat=aim
safari=Mozilla
and right click is uhhh…is uhhh ok macs dont have right click but they also have uhhh uhhh oh yeah they have the same games as, wait no…well they have
please people look at the facts pcs run better they are more efficient, and they are less complicated.
and 600 bones of extra software…i dont think so
Macie said,
April 17, 2008 at 1:32 am
Mac owners remind me of Scientologists. Thats not a good thing.
I’m typing this on my $340 2007 Compaq Presario laptop. After I put $8 in memory in this thing, it screams. Plays games like Doom 3 nicely, I’m happy. Now, what type of Mac can you get for $300 bucks, again?
Oh yeah, to the above dude. People really want my crappy old 2002 IBM t21. I can sell it for what I paid for it 4 years ago – $300. $400 for a 2005 Laptop? Big Deal.
ben said,
April 21, 2008 at 6:55 am
I agree with everything here. MACS SUCK!
ben said,
April 21, 2008 at 6:56 am
It is proven that people that have macs also have socail problems and severe mental retardedness
nerdynick said,
April 21, 2008 at 7:08 pm
This says it all why macs suck
Beezy said,
April 22, 2008 at 11:06 pm
i love how all mac users are so smug, the thing is macs crash too, macs are slow too, macs get problems just like the PC. BUTTT u have to own a mac to experience the problems, and by the time u purchased one of those expensive shits, its not all that great, and u CANT complain. MACS ARENT THAT GREAT< PC’s ARENT EITHER, but nothing PISSES me off mroe wen smugg ass mac owners dis PC’s like, PC’s suck, Vista Sucks, w.e MACS SUCK
I. P. Freely said,
April 24, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Looks like the PC users have problems with spelling and grammar.
I. P. Freely said,
April 24, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Hey Beezy
That video was made by a Mac user – on a Mac
FACE!
mj said,
April 26, 2008 at 6:24 am
i m a pc user & wana say tat Macs rule!
PC gets virus everyday! bcoz i know as i m makin a coldfusion app on the pc!
!!!
why gont u just install windows on the mac via bootcamp to play games u r so lazy! dumbass!
Unknown said,
April 29, 2008 at 10:39 am
By far the best factual mac haters website I’ve ever seen. The only problem is that you are focusing on little problems like the stupid clock not showing the date. Don’t even make a website if you can’t think of enough information. I would say that 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, and 12 are either lies of minor unimportant problems.
Nsen74 said,
May 1, 2008 at 6:48 pm
I agree alot with what you’re saying. My parents have Macs and they are nice looking machines but once I get onto it I have some of the same problems with it that you mentioned. The biggest issue for me is the one button mouse. This has got to be the worst idea in IMO. My second gripe is the pricing. They are way too expensive for what you get. I have a PC that I spent $500 that really kicks butt but if I bought a Mac with the same specs it would have probably cost me $2000.
Steve said,
May 12, 2008 at 5:20 pm
DOOOODD! ur soo right macs suck baadly!!! im at skoool using a mac:( PC 4 EVAH!!!
MrCrowely said,
May 14, 2008 at 2:38 am
I am an artist, and a PC user. I find Macs to be sterile and stagnating to the creative process. I equate it to trying to draw circles with an etch-a-sketch.
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Omar said,
May 21, 2008 at 11:32 pm
1) They are actually pretty competitive spec for spec; hardly overpriced. There are just no bargain bin macs. But then again, those $500 PC’s are still using Pentium 4’s and Pentium D’s. You get what you pay for.
2) True, desktops are upgradeable. However, the majority of people (ie. not me or you or other tech savy users) are actually scared of opening their computer’s case. A lot of upgrades are made only after the parts being replaced fail, and they’re only upgrades because technology advanced since the computer was built.
3) You can install more codecs as quicktime components. I use Ogg Vorbis in iTunes tyvm.
4) VLC and other players exist on macs. Also, iTunes only arranges your music on the file system if you select the option for it (you’re even asked on first launch). It’s been like that since at least version 5.
5) People mod macs all the time. There is nothing that would prevent one from doing that. You can go even further that simple case mods and add new hardware. Just write the drivers and you’re good to go.
6) The behavior of the zoom button is application dependent. Maximizing a windows is not always the ideal behavior. If you have a 23 inch monitor, chances are, you’re not gonna want to maximize anything. Additionally, this behavior is not Mac specific. Linux desktop environment behave similarly.
7) Closing the last window doesn’t quit an application by default, and there are benefits to that. If you really want to terminate it, you can quit it from the menu, dock, or with a keyboard shortcut.
9) PC’s actually has more keys. Macs have Control, Alt, And Command. PC’s have Control, Alt, Windows, and Menu. In any case, that’s not a problem with either platform. They don’t complicate anything and they make power user’s lives easier.
10) Full size mac keyboards do have those keys, and even if they didn’t, you could always use a USB keyboard of your choice.
11) Click the clock if you want to see the date. But you’re right, Gnome Desktop does have the edge with the calendar.
12)If you’re referring to the form element, yes, you can tab to it. Regardless of your opinion on Safari, it’s not the only Mac browser. If you want to use Firefox or Opera, you’re free to do so. Saying Macs suck because of Safari is like saying Windows sucks because of IE. The only difference is that IE sucks in more ways than any other browser and few people other than Microsoft dispute that.
13) Blame the game devs for not making enough mac games. The iMac, Macbook Pro, and Mac Pro are more than capable of playing modern 3D games, and while the integrated graphic chips in the Macbook and Mac mini aren’t, they can play most other games just fine.
“Also if you want to brag about how much better your Mac is then My PCs learn to use a computer first with out the assistance of tool tips an all that stuff programmed in for the beginners. I mean be able to sit down at a command prompt and know what your doing. I want to be able to say “I want you to find in side of a file bared some were on the hard drive the like “Macs Suck”.” And with out thinking about it you can type it right in, and don’t come back to me with well my Mac doesn’t get viruses. Well either does my Windows and by Ubuntu, but that might be because I actual know how to use a computer”
Oh boy, where do I begin with this one. First, avoid run ons, it makes things harder to read and quote.
As Steve jobs once said, computers are mind amplification devices. While it’s important to be able to open a command prompt and chain together very specific commands to accomplish a task, it is even more important to make the simplest of tasks easy for beginners. With their UNIX core and accessible interface, Macs accomplish both of those things very well. You should not be patronizing people for doing things the easy way, because the purpose of computers is to make tasks easier.
Lastly, people don’t get infected with viruses because they don’t know how to use the computer. System files can be modified without a password prompt, silently, because most people are logged in as the only sensible default user account level, the overpowered administrator one. This is not the case on UNIX like OS’s like OSX, linux, or BSD. The unprivileged user accounts are not crippled like they are in Windows XP, and even if you use an administrator account (not the root user, but an account belonging to an admin group), you’re still prompted for a password to modify system level files and install software. Of course, if you’re an IT expert, you can probably make a custom user account level that with a good balance of power and safety, but most people aren’t, and frankly, that should have been done my Microsoft.
However, no matter how secure the OS is, there is no way to stop user stupidity. No OS in the world is going to stop someone from falling for a phishing scam, handing out their banking details, and then downloading and installing a malicious program to steal their passwords if that user has the privileges to do so. Even if it’s feasible, it probably won’t happen. If computers can just say “NO” because they feel they know better, we, the human race, are in for a shit storm.
In closing, you don’t have to like macs, but at least do some research before posting about why they suck, and certainly don’t just pull things out of your ass. As for Linux being the better OS, it has potential, but lacks vision and direction.
RYan said,
June 2, 2008 at 3:05 pm
I agree macs suck. I think that the main reasons that macs don’t get viruses is…
1. Macs don’t make up a large amount of computers in the world so people don’t bother coding them
2. NO ONE would notice. They’d think its a normal part of the mac experience
Also My dad got a IPhone recently great device untill it broke beyond repair 4 times within 1 year luckily he had a waranty so he got a new one every time. Ha they didn’t make any money off him.
Ross said,
July 25, 2008 at 5:33 pm
My friends, two brothers, and huge mac fan boys, and I have used their macs alot. And despite using OSX and thinking expose and finder were cool I would never buy a mac for one reason – if it breaks it costs heaps to fix. On one laptop you gotta be careful not to knock off the power connector because the battery is stuffed. On the desktop the wireless network is broken and periodically the keyboard locks up..
Skyler said,
August 5, 2008 at 2:13 pm
your way 2 nice 2 macs……………………………
bjames105 said,
August 6, 2008 at 7:26 pm
thanks a million dude. that was worth the time for you to write. it is everything that i hate about macs in one article. i am trying to install ubuntu on my pc right now… but i got a faulty .iso… so… great job. that is all i expect from a similar mind.
Raquel said,
September 2, 2008 at 6:35 pm
I used to want a mac… untill I went to print photos I had edited in the mac version of photoshop and couldn’t take them to a professional print shop because the mac had disgarded the canon color profiles and ingrained them with mac color monitor color profile.
I almost bought that mac just like the one in the University photolab, the one that won’t even run CS3 because it can’t be upgraded. Instead I popped a new AMD processer and another GB of RAM into my 2002 compaq laptop and run CS3 just fine, WITH tons of canvases open!
Raquel said,
September 2, 2008 at 6:40 pm
My uncle is a professor at the university I attend. He is a total mac fanboy even though we haven’t been able to review finale in our songwriting class because everytime he opens it his 2007 macbook pro crashes. When I asked him why he said that it doesn’t meet the ram requirements for the program. When I asked him why he doesn’t just get more ram he told me that he had “reached his upgrade potential”. LOL
And he is still mean to students who bring PCs into class!
My 2002 compaq took a ram upgrade just fine and runs the FULL version of finale!
Paul said,
September 7, 2008 at 5:58 am
Macs are computing by numbers for people who don’t know or care to know how a computer actually works. The Mac fanboys are fond of claiming that Macs don’t get viruses, I’d say that XP with SP3 or Vista with SP1 are as secure as any Mac would be, and if you were a virus writer would you write viruses for the OS that has 5% of the market or the one which has 90%, as in the case of Windows?
Huzah! said,
September 8, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Oh but all that hardware stuff doesn’t matter when you have a corporate puppet like Justin Long…. how cares about upgrading your mac…i mean its not like all its hardware is going to be out of date in like a month…or will it hmm….i think technology advances every month or so…..
don’t get me wrong i don’t think gates should of took all the credit for windows….but then again that maybe one reason why any one buys a mac…”oh look gates took all the credit for windows..when Steve jobs helped…poor man…lets buy a mac to cheer him up” i mean why would anyone really think about getting a mac…? OH but wait every cool kid has a mac..i mean don’t you want to be just like justin??!?!?! come on people lets be a mindless corporate puppet!!!!
BTW: fuck off mac fan boys learn to think about shit (and learn to see the cons of the godly system you call mac…haha fags)
im a hard core linux fan..even with some distros not being 100% there..still better then mac..and my pc runs better too( i can’t just ask for mommy and daddy’s credit card like all you mac users)
rofl peace
me? said,
October 7, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Finally, another mac hater. Thanks for posting this
Mason said,
October 16, 2008 at 2:50 pm
VLC is for Mac to Dumbass
asdf said,
October 18, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I hate macs. I dislike most mac users even more. Every person I know who uses a mac is one of those people who feels the need to constantly tell to me why their mac is so great. Moreover, every time someone comes to tell me about their great new mac, it seems almost like they are reciting word for word the apple website. Mac users know shit about the computers that they are using. All apple products are specifically designed to accommodate the dumb-ass computer users who refuse to take the time to figure out how to use the $1000+ dollar piece of equipment they are using. Why do these people who know absolutely nothing about their computers feel that they are qualified to tell me why theirs is so much better than anyone else’s.
I think you made some good points and some useless points. On a mac, I find that I cannot do anything with the computer that Apple does not specifically say I can do. I don’t like the idea that someone is restricting my ability to use my own computer. Of course it “just works” when all you can do is surf the net and play with the iSuite.
Every “great, new, and innovative” feature that mac comes out with has been done already by a windows 3rd party program or in Linux. Apple copies other peoples ideas, and then all of the sudden Steve Jobs announces to his little mac users that he just came up with some great feature. Then all of us Linux guys are confused when mac users come to us describing this awesome new mac-exclusive tool that the rest of the computing world has had for the past 3 years. (examples: Leopard desktop cube and all of the features in the latest version of itunes. There are more.)
Yeah, macs don’t get many viruses. Neither does Linux though. The reason why macs don’t get so many more viruses is because no one is interested in writing one. Linux, on the other hand, does not get viruses because the code is out in the open, and every time that someone sees a potential security flaw, they report it and it gets fixed by the community the next day. Besides, chances are that the guys smart enough to write the viruses are using Linux themselves.
Macs are crazy expensive and cannot be upgraded. This means in two years you will have a crappy computer and you will have spent twice as much for it as the smart person did.
As for all the keyboard shortcut problems and stuff, whatever. The mac mouse is annoying though.
There are far more games and programs for people who aren’t using macs.
Mac users: Learn to use your computer before you start telling us why macs are so great and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Thor Valhalla said,
October 26, 2008 at 9:44 pm
I have always liked Apple products to some extent, but I’ve never liked Apple itself. They make it seem like anyone who uses a Mac, or any of their products, is better than you. I know a few people with a Macintosh or two, and they’re not at all like that, but still, Apple has engraved it into my mind and probably a whole lot of others.
First, the most obvious point, the pricing. I bought an HP laptop a while back. 1.9 GHz dual-core processor, 2 GB of RAM, a 160 GB hard drive, and all of this for $700. Now for MacBooks… Four hundred dollars for 4 GB of RAM? It’s insane! My laptop runs everything I need (Illustrator, Flash, Photoshop and a few ganes) smoothly, and yes, I’m running Windows Vista. It’s a lot better than people say it is.
Then we have the whole isolation thing. Once you buy a Mac, or an iPod, you’re with Apple. No one else can help you now. If your Mac screws up, you gotta take it to your Apple dealer. It wouldn’t be bad if there were Apple stores everywhere, but they’re not. I can find a place to get my PC fixed, if I ever need to, every few blocks.
And those commercials. Their ads have got to be the worst to ever air. Macs are supposedly for creative minds, but their ads don’t show that. They just show some skinny guy in jeans in front of a white background whining. ‘OOh, PC, you have a virus! Not me though! I’m too secure to get a virus’. Macs have gotten viruses, and the main reason they don’t have as many viruses as Windows is because… no one cares about Macs. Think of it this way. If you’re some sick psychopath who wants to use a missile to kill as many people as you can, and there is one island with 500,000 people (Windows), and another with 50 (Macintosh), which island would you aim for?
If the guys at Apple just stopped being complete jackasses, Macs would be seen as a better PC (Yes, they are PCs, whether you like it or not). Seriously, the best way to get Windows users to switch to Macs isn’t by telling them they’re all fat guys in suits wearing glasses who like working with spreadsheets. It’s by showing why Macs are great; not why Windows sucks.
(Excuse me if I spelled a few words wrong, or typed with bad grammar)
Sandra said,
October 29, 2008 at 9:13 am
A lot of these comments are fueled by vast amounts of stupidity, ignorance, and misconception.
Let me address the one that bugs me the most first:
YES YOU CAN RIGHT-CLICK ON THE STANDARD APPLE MOUSE!
No pressing command or option or whatever — and this has been supported by Apple for ages now, it works exactly like any PC mouse, so please for the love of not looking like a complete idiot, let’s STFU with that one already. If you don’t know how to customize your system preferences and can’t see the gigantic shiny icon there labeled “Keyboard & Mouse” you really have no business owning a computer. Read the fracking manual.
Okay, so yes I am a MAC user. But I’m also a PC user. I’m a web and graphic design student, and as macs are the industry standard in our field, it made sense to me to purchase one. However, I also use a pc every day at my job, and have used pc’s since I was a child. I’ve always hated the mac fanaticism that some mac users have towards their machines — I think it is weird, stupid, and cult-like.
For the most part, unless you are mentally retarded, you should be able to use BOTH a mac and/or pc with minimal issues. Macs are not “easier” but they are more intuitive, so yes, perhaps if you are an idiot, you’ll find the mac-experience friendlier.
But, if you are an idiot, you have no business voicing your opinion on any computer and it’s benefits or cons.
This article was originally written in 2006, so things have changed since then. Safari obviously supports tabbed browsing. So does Firefox. IE didn’t until IE7 was launched. VLC is available for all — as are numerous other programs and software.
The price thing is another huge misconception. To get a PC with the specs I want and need — it would cost MORE than my mac. My 24″ iMac displays colour and websites beautifully. To buy a PC monitor to compare or rival what it does — is hundreds of $$ more on top of everything else you’re spending.
Gamers are at a disadvantage on Macs, but you can run Windows parallel if you really wanted to which means all of your beloved games can be played.
So get over yourselves, all of you, mac or pc fanboy’s alike.
One area Apple has PC beat is innovation. Mac users tend to be on top of the latest updates and software where as I know tons of pc users who are still browsing the web on Internet Explorer 6.
Steve said,
October 29, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Hey Idiot? Why continue to support any MS products when you can have the real deal…A Mac with OS X. MS is 3 steps behind like they ALWAYS have been ever since they hijacked Apple’s code and fu#*ed it up years ago.
You know, you can create your cheesy Powerpoint presentations, use Word and make your boring spreadsheets on a MAC, plus be able to do really cool stuff fast without constantly having to diagnose a Windows/PC issue.
I make records for a living….probably a few that you’ve even bought…..all on my Mac…for the last 15 years. The sh#t has never changed or let me down. Only gotten better. The only problem I have with Apple now is that they are too popular and trendy. So please, keep using your piece of cr_p and don’t join the rest of the preps who make the switch to Apple. Leave their products for the pros, like me, who get sh*t done.
Steve
me said,
October 31, 2008 at 5:22 pm
The guy who posted above sounds like a duchebag. What was that about apple being three steps ahead of everyone else? Absolutely not. Apple copies all of its shit from linux and yes, sometimes even windows. Moreover, they do so several years after it first comes out. Yeah, mac users think they are using the greatest, newest stuff, but that is only because they have no clue what goes on behind the screen that apple has formed between its users and the outside world. For example, over the next few years people will be working on creating all sorts of 3-dimensional desktop environments. Do you think Apple is going to be the first one there? No. First, they will come out for Linux. Try out Project Looking Glass and the Croquet project and you will see that people are already starting (there is still a lot more to be done, but it’s a step in the right direction.) Then, a year or two later, 3rd party programs will emulate the same thing under windows. Finally, mac will show up a couple years late, as it has consistently done with everything else, come out with something that is an exact copy of what already exists, and then tell their unaware users how they are offering something that nobody else has yet.
3 steps ahead my ass…
By the way, how could MS have “hijacked” apple’s code? The two operating systems are so fundamentally different.
I use macs frequently for sound editing, and I run into plenty of situations where I have to “diagnose a mac issue.” Most of the programs are the same, re-written for each operating system, so there is really no difference in what you have to do for sound editing between the operating systems. If anything, while the most common programs are written for both, there are a lot more other programs available for windows then there are for mac.
Jeff said,
November 5, 2008 at 11:08 am
Mac’s have fallen over the slippery slope. The latest operating system Leopard, is a piece of poorly written junk, yes junk. The ability to get any meaningfull technical support is virtually none existent.
Yes we are running a large OS X network and after the latest Leopard version of the OS shipping with imacs, the end user support issues have sky rocketed.
Here are a small list of issues, I wish that egotistical bastard Apple CEO Steve Jobs would get off his billions and fix.
1. Time Machine offer the user no flexibilty in scheduling backup. Macs think it users are stupid.
I do not touch a mackbook for hours or days but all of the sudden the external drive starts churning away for 10 minutes. No changes in files but must keep on cataloging the files. Then if you want to use the maching TM is running and slow the system to a crawl.
2. RIP Stacks. This was foisted on 10.5 users and I would say 90% of the users didn’t like. Note they quitely changed Stacks.
3. Users get asked if they want to update their iPhoto library. They are warned once they change they cannot go back. Most users say Yes. The problem is that on our network we have different macs and images, not all of old lower RAM macs are updated to 10.5 Once they click yes, they can no longer go to say a Mac lab logon to the network and access thier photos. Most user lose my of thier existing photo and have to call support to see if we can get them back.
4. The new latest 13 in Macbook (the model we would likey order) has no firewire 400 price at the low low price of $1299, the problem is many of our users still have FW400 portable external drives and we have a number of FW camcorders, etc. So I can tell my users to throw out those still fully function external devices, that won ‘t be a problem at all.
5. On a Windows network, you can have a mix of really old slow NT 4.0, XP, and Windows 2000 PC running off a Windows 2003 server.
On a 10.5.5 mac server good luck, since we were told by their System Engineer that 10.4 is out they have limited support, so if you have a mix of Mac OS X version, there are a huge number of issues and incompatilities. It has turned into a Tech Support nightmare.
6, OK. Windows update is a major annoyance but now with OS X, OS X loses almost evertime or everday you start up guess what, 5-10 major updates must be loaded and installed.
The Mac advantage is now nothing.
8. It appears as have many other Apple is only concerns with meeting it quartly profit forcast and damn everyone else including the customer.
Put products hastely out and hope the customer will buy into the hype.
9. The latest ipod touch integrates a volume control and tiny useless speaker. Why would you have a small two speaker or stereo sound, if you are positoning the device a an alternative to a PSP or gameboy, to give a advantage to the 3 rd gen ipod touch.
No Apple want’s you to throw out that obsolete 6 month old piece of crap and buy new. OK, I know how things are supposed to work but give me a break.
10. No comany is perfect but unlike Apple they don’t mock other product and spell out their problems or issues but fail to admit to their own short comings.
Will I still buy Apple products? Yes, maybe but I compare alternatives first, save a ton of money and still see if I can be just as happy!.
Lucid said,
November 6, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Bryant your a fucking idiot.
Im sorry but a lot of this information is incorrect and purely based on personal opinon.
1. Of course Mac’s are priced higher than PC’s but it pays off well…they have way better resell value. For instance after having a mac for several years maybe you want to upgrade to a newer one so just go to ebay you can still find a buyer willing to pay around 400$! for a powerbook g4 keep in mind that that the last G4′ were mad in 05!.Besides the OS is definitly worth the extra cash you might not agree on this but you cant disagree with the better resell value.
#So the whole point of buying a computer is to sell it later because you constantly have to keep buying new ones to upgrade?
2.Macs in general cant all be upgraded but the Mac Pro can sure its way expensive but hey their upgradeable. Ill give you the upperhand on this one.
Joy…
4.What makes you think itunes is the ony audio player available for mac’s ? you sir have obviously made to effort to get your fact straight. VLC is availabe for OS X among many others hell you can even instal WMP 9 on em if you want to play some WMA OR WMV
I sure love how Mac developers boast about how great ITunes is…. They also stated that ITunes was the best running program on the PC. Hahaha….. I have to be honest…. I ran Itunes on my 4 different pc’s years ago and nothing lagged me out more. The program wouldn’t even quit correctly.
5.This one is just stupid. what exactly prevents a mac user to make a “cool mod” with their computer? “shoving a PC into a pumpkin for the hell of it ” HOW exactly would a mac break if this was to be tried ? You just couldnt think of another one of your stupid reasons so you just repeated the fact that macs are more expensive and welll….just look at my answer to #1 dumbass
Prevents? Ummm the fact that no one in the right mind would waste their money on the Mac parts. Pc parts and Os’s (Linux,Unix, Windows) are easily obtainable.
6.You obviously dont know about the little trick called stretching the window as tall and as wide as youd like buy using the mouse to drag and pll the right corner of any window
It doesn’t fully stretch, as stated earlier.
7.It doesnt really close? WTF? its called going up to the the programs window and clicking on quit dumbass…jeez you are one stupid individual
You know nothing about hidden process’s.
8.Im not so sure about this one since im not on OS X at the moment im on OS 9
but hey what the hell ill give you this one , macs arent perfect and I suppose this could be a reason why macs are inferior to PC’s. The only 100% valid one so far…
My only comment : “oh god i can’t read your whole sentence. I have to switch between Windows 98 and Windows Xp to run different programs. How convenient (sarcasm)
9.Function?where the hell are you seeing this button? lies! and BS I telll you . alt and option are the same button which only leaves command button and control not very hard to memorize that control and click is right click, or is JR. forgetfull and stupid? I guess so. And this one is just crazy but have you thought that maybe the delete button is the delete button? goodamn you are retarded
Learn to read what he was even stating.. oh congrats Macs, you finally upgraded to a double button mouse. *applause*
10. HEy sherlock have you ever even seen a freakin mac keyboard ? they do have dedicated Page Up,Page down,Home,and End keys ! and even if they didnt well why dont you be a thinker and i dont know maybe use a diffrent keyboard if you dont like appples keyboards.
Wow cool, you have to go out and buy yet another product.
11.Clock ? is that really why you dont use a mac? wow you are ignorant . but dont worry my friend doesnt drive his million dollar ferrari around because it doesnt have an A/C …so your kind is not alone
Ummm i highly doubt you can compare an automobile to a computer. But nice try. And you don’t have a friend who has a million dollar ferrari, because if you did he would have bought a PC and you would have despised him for not selling his car for a Macintosh that doesn’t have Air Conditioning.
12.IF you dont like Safari then dont use it dumbass based on your other reason I read that you use firefox well jackass they make a mac version of firefox too.
Wow they have firefox for macs? Where do I order a mac?
13.Zero games? wow youre a really good liar there are more games I can play on my mac than i can on my cousins PC even though he has a alienware gaming PC. How so? well let me explain it to you since you dont know anything…add up all the games out their for PC and the thousands of games for mac and you end up with more games playable with my mac than with a PC because macs ave their respectable amounts of games available plus all the games I can run under boootcamp . This is why I love My Mac
Hahaha this was the funniest one of them all…. … Linux = PC ….. Linux = runs all potentially….
Bootcamp = emulation. Good FUCKING luck emulating high end PC games on bootcamp. Good fucking luck. For starters try to run Lineage 2 Official retail on bootcamp. 1. Emulation would slow down the system and crash. 2. You will never get passed gameguard on official Retail servers. 3. Emulation…. lmfao…
get over yourself
I hope your fingers get caught in the windows of your friends million dollar ferrari and fall off.
me said,
November 7, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Hey, guy who posted above. Why don’t you read other people’s comments before posting your own shit. Everyone has already talked about how useless the points he makes about preference options are in this article. You are completely wrong about the resell value of a mac vs. the resell value of a pc. You are also blatantly incorrect in saying that there are more games for the mac then there are for windows. You flaunt the fact that you can play games under bootcamp, but that’s not using a mac. That’s using windows. Isn’t that the whole debate in this article? If I really wanted to, I could dual boot and put a mac on my pc, but that doesn’t change the fact that I’m still using a mac. What, you think because you are using the official mac hardware your copy of windows is not actually windows? Believe it or not, pc users have been able to install multiple operating systems for years before apple decided to change its own OS to support this as well. “This is why I love my mac” –> Your not even using a mac.
I hope you fall off your high horse and get trampled by a herd of stampeding buffalo while your ears get cut off by garden gnomes. See? I can make really random and stupid insults at the end of my posts too.
Lucid said,
November 7, 2008 at 10:49 pm
me said,
just wow… “Why don’t you read other people’s comments before posting your own shit.”
you might want to realize that my post is a reply to post #12. Bryant wrote that post and I was replying to Bryant..
i can’t stop laughing…
Why don’t you read other people’s comments before posting your own shit.
Why don’t you read other people’s comments before posting your own shit.
Why don’t you read other people’s comments before posting your own shit.
me said,
November 10, 2008 at 9:30 pm
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Lucid, fuck you. Why don’t you go back to sucking Steve Jobs’ dick. And yeah, I stand by my prior statement that your comments are shit.
Sorry to everyone else on this forum for posting bad comments and being negative, but I think this Lucid guy is even more of an asshole than me (although it’s highly debatable.) Feel free to go back to making intellectual comments.
Lucid said,
November 10, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Do you have any fucking idea how to read? Macs are a joke. god your a fucking idiot. You can’t even tell the difference?
(BRYANT TYPED THIS, NOT ME)
Im sorry but a lot of this information is incorrect and purely based on personal opinon.
1. Of course Mac’s are priced higher than PC’s but it pays off well…they have way better resell value. For instance after having a mac for several years maybe you want to upgrade to a newer one so just go to ebay you can still find a buyer willing to pay around 400$! for a powerbook g4 keep in mind that that the last G4′ were mad in 05!.Besides the OS is definitly worth the extra cash you might not agree on this but you cant disagree with the better resell value.
(I TYPED THE BELOW)
#So the whole point of buying a computer is to sell it later because you constantly have to keep buying new ones to upgrade?
me said,
November 11, 2008 at 8:23 am
I still don’t like you, asshole.
Lucid said,
November 11, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I wasn’t the one who made the mistake.
me said,
November 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Go to hell. I’m definitely going to get the last post in this argument.
victor said,
November 12, 2008 at 5:42 pm
You two are retarded. Lucid, you suck, “me” is right about your comments being rude crappy, and your an ass.
JHO said,
November 12, 2008 at 6:03 pm
yeah lucid, you suck. leave.
Lucid said,
November 13, 2008 at 6:17 pm
last post
Lucid said,
November 14, 2008 at 9:32 pm
I love how JHO, victor, me said all have the same exact IP Address =) hmmm I wonder why that is.
me said,
November 16, 2008 at 8:25 am
damn, i thought i was so clever.
but then I saw that the little symbol next to the name was the same.
Just having fun…
anon said,
November 19, 2008 at 4:43 pm
well, your english is a bit off, but no big deal.
while I agreed with most of what you said, you clearly needed to rip on itunes more. you didn’t mention how taxing it is on resources, how it tries to take over your computer, tries to force you to intall safari, etc. As well, you could have mentioned their inferior hardware which they claim is the latest and most up to date; the macbook pros didn’t get core2duo until about 8 months after they came out on PC. lastly, all you have to mention is how when leopard came out, the top search on the help section was that it was causing a “mysterious blue screen” on install.
Sarah said,
December 16, 2008 at 9:47 am
I researched macs before I bought one and as everyone was raving bought a powerbook g4 about 4 years ago for 2000 GBP. I loved the physical design and the look of the software. BUT, it kept crashing (without adding any other software).
It ran so hot it would start to burn my legs. I couldn’t watch a dvd without the screen scrolling. Fortunately I videoed the problem as when we eventually got apple to take it back to look at it we received a letter saying they couldn’t find a fault and accused us lying and of trying to send the mac back to buy a cheaper computer elsewhere!
I recently went to Singapore and there are no mac mice with right click capability. I hate how you have (had?) to import photos into iphoto before being able to view them – on a pc you can view them on the external device without having to import. I hate the not-quite-full screen issue, even if you can drag the screen – but why should I? Full screen should mean full screen. When I download a file where does it end up? A different place everytime it seems. How do you use your hotmail account with the email prog? Even if these things CAN be done the mac is just not user friendly. Open more than one program and mine crashed. it was then used as a dvd player until it decided I couldn’t change the region code again. Garageband crashes constantly.
I thought yesterday I’d listen to the radio on it, but now, it just crashed. It is a 2000 GBP pile of junk which looks good. I love the way macs look and always get drawn back but as soon as I start to use them I back off again.
I have to agree, if you want to email and use word (MS word that is!) then use a mac, if you want to actually use a computer to do something useful buy a pc.
Before anyone says well one that is four years old is bound to be useless now, it didn’t work at the time and was twice as much as laptops at the time. One bitten twice shy.
Noah said,
December 21, 2008 at 9:00 am
There are many extremely serious Mac problems that aren’t even addressed here. However, that’s understandable, because there are literally hundreds, if not thousands of problems, and it would be an incredible feat to list all of them. Some of the most serious Mac problems include:
1.) The batteries break all the time. This leads to minor inconveniences such as the MAC NOT LOADING YOUR ACCOUNT. Costly repair is always required in this situation.
2.) Macs can’t download most kinds of files. All the heavily-hyped file converters either don’t work, can’t be properly installed, or only convert about 10% of the types of files they are supposed to be able to convert. So far, there has been no solution to this problem.
3.) Programs freeze and crash ALL THE TIME.
4.) It is almost impossible to stay connected to the internet for more than a minute at a time. Want to chat with a girl you like? Too bad! Want to talk to your friends over MSN? Sucks to be you.
5.) When Macs break, only a professional can diagnose what broke and how to fix it. This is not a coincidence; Apple loves to milk their customers for all they’re worth, and forcing them to have their computers repaired every few weeks is an integral part of their business strategy.
6.) Updating your software can totally destroy a Mac beyond repair. Yes, it’s that bad. I had this happen to one of my Macs, which is now sitting in a landfill somewhere. This problem is also due to the fact that Macs are not designed to be upgradable, but instead designed to force you to buy new Macs at least once per year, as this is part of Apple’s business strategy.
7.) Macs totally fall apart after just one year of use, and can’t be repaired after that. Again, this happened to another one of my Macs.
8.) The CD tray breaks often, and of course, can only be repaired by a professional.
9.) Macs always function MUCH slower than they are supposed to. It is not uncommon for a Mac to take 20, 50 or even 100 times as long as it is supposed to to load websites or simple files.
10.) It is common for Macs to break again 3 – 5 days after they have been repaired.
11.) When you download files, they are pretty much stored in random places. It is common to spend 15 minutes looking for a file you just downloaded and not find it.
12.) Macs don’t warn you when you are about to move or delete a file that is integral to the system being able to run. Instead, they simply allow you to move or delete the file in question and then become totally incapable of functioning. This, of course, results in more costly repairs, because you can never recover lost files on a Mac. So much for user friendly, amirite?
13.) It requires an incredible amount of skill and intelligence to navigate your way through the “Help” library. Most of the links in the “Help” library just link to other links, which then link to other links, which then link back to the links you first came across. In other words, it’s like running in circles.
Well, that’s all I’m going to write here. But rest assured, there are hundreds of other very serious problems with Macs.
I kill macs users for fun said,
December 29, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Macs suck figure it out. Just because some b list actor comes on the TV and tells you that Stever Jobs created something special just tell me that he is a retard and that all people how use and enjoy mac products are equally retarted.
Josh said,
January 12, 2009 at 6:03 am
You fuckwits, bootcamp boots WINDOWS (OR ANOTHER OS) so your not using Mac anymore are you? fucking idiots..
>>Dirto said,
January 25, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Ya know i also find mac windows hard to hide because im really used to PCs their hide button is on the left and PCs close buttons are on the right. +their easear to use!
youclash.com said,
January 27, 2009 at 5:30 pm
macs sucks ass, i own 2 macs and 1 pc , i’m gonna install linux on one of those mac boxes cheers youclash.com
John said,
January 28, 2009 at 8:32 am
I have both PC nad Mac and i am not on either side i think they both have there pro’s and cons
but you realise that mac can run windows right? (as of leopard onwards)
So why don’t you just get a xp or vista disk and run it on ur mac if u hate it so much
hope this helps your problems with mac
Mac hater 100% said,
February 14, 2009 at 12:57 am
If you are an computer expert you should know the answer to this. Don’t buy a mac buy a PC. Yeah there are some flaws with the PC, but not as bad as the mac flaws.
PC flaws
1.Blue screen of death (XP).
2.Internet card gets fried (vista).
3.You can get virus’s.
But these are all things you can fix. They truly aren’t that bad, My xp is now 9 years old (I think) and it just started having the blue screen of death about 6 months ago. I used to have a vista, after a year the internet card fried, but that was because people in my family were litteraly using it 24/7. The only reason why pc’s can get a virus is because the virus’s were specificaly made to harm PC’s, it doesn’t affect mac though because the programming is very different. I have a teacher (6th period) that has a mac, but long behold she never uses it…. I wonder why?
Mac flaws
1.Doesn’t have or work with any good programs (the ones that most people use).
2.Quittime is a piece of shit compared to Windows media player, my friend Daniel toled me he wouldn’t have downloaded it if he knew it didn’t have such shity qaulity (we recorded a thing for youtube and it was in a mov file on the camera).
3.It look jut like vista, but it’s over priced and it doesn’t work as well.
4.No one makes anything with mac, everything you see on you’re tv screen probably went through PC processing, Vista has a very nice dvd and video making feature (windows movie maker).
I could go on and on and on about mac flaws, but I’m gonna go to bed now.
PC users, sleep tight and don’t let the mac users bite.
D C said,
February 16, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Way too kind, you are.
Looking over mac pros and imacs over the weekend, those things are so bass-ackwards and for all the reasons you stated.
Worse, Apple doesn’t even have a trade-up program. You know, like how many other companies have: You get money for giving them your old equipment.
Indeed, Apple is a PC + EFI firmware + mostly-open-source software. Why pay $2000 for their model when I can build my own for HALF the price (and that’s with 4x the quantity of RAM and a real video card, thank you nVidia) and put on Fedora.
Also go into big box stores where the mac salespeople roam. Their main customer: 50~60-somethings that know nothing. Perfect victims if you ask me.
Also, if Mac is so great, how come Adobe nixed products like Premiere from the Mac and delayed 64-bit versions of software like Photoshop until newer releases? (64-bit CS4 is for Windows only; Mac users have to wait until CS5 or use a 64-bit XP emulator or Boot Camp if they want 64-bit Winbloat computing.)
Never mind battery problems in the ipods and other issues – Apple is ripe for criticism over anti-green policies, many of which double for what I’ve already said regarding their hardware. Apple is backwards.
Even their much vaunted monitors are based on the same 5 year old technology.
They are gouging. Pure and simple.
Best of luck to Psystar – thanks to previous precedents in the PC realm, they’ll likely win. (IBM sued Compaq for selling a clone but IBM lost thanks to using off the shelf hardware. Apples are off the shelf PC hardware plus hybrid open source software; they can not possibly have a case.)
ilan said,
February 18, 2009 at 2:52 pm
You are complety correct the mac sucks but I do have to give to them that the ONLY thing that the mac is good at is the ipod… even if it is a hell of a lot more money than any other mp3 player
Dave said,
March 18, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I have had the same computer for exactly 6 years now. It runs Windows XP. And I will say that I have had many many problems with it, although most of these problems have been due to stupidity. But now in it’s final lap, it seems that it is doing just great .
Now, I am constantly over at my friend’s house and he owns an iMac. Whenever I use this computer, I feel like I’m constrained to only do the things it wants me to do. It seems extremely hard to actually look inside the folders that make the computer run, actually find the programs that aren’t on the bottom dock, close the programs so that they completely stop working and change the settings. The windows don’t even take up the whole screen!
With windows XP, I feel like I’m in full control and do whatever the hell I want with it. If I want to mess around and customize what services are running, hell I can do it. With a mac, it’s like “no way we didn’t build it so that you could CHANGE it!”
Plus, there’s no freaking games that run on it! My god you have world of warcraft and halo 1. Good job.
Did I mention that my friend’s iMac has completely died and been shipped out more than twice?
I’ve never seen a blue screen of death on my computer. And even when there were some serious unexplained issues and this crazy virus that took over everything, a simple recovery console fixed everything. It was really as simple as using recovery console. Screw all these people who say “oh I had to reformat” because they honestly don’t know about recovery console and how amazing it actually is. It pretty much reformats the computer to the standard settings, but keeps all of your files.
My friend goes on about how awesome time machine is. He failed to mention that time machine makes endless copies of files that haven’t even changed! There are so many copies of the exact same file and there are no obvious (if any) ways to change that. Many mac owners also seem to think that time machine is unique to the mac. This is incorrect. It’s just some visually fancy way of backing up your files. Any file backup program for windows can do that.
As for the software on a mac, it seems that whenever I’m using it, many random things just popup out of nowhere! All of a sudden, everything at the bottom is jumping up and down and coming up all over the screen with errors because I just wanted to browse youtube!
Also, there is no decent IM program for mac. Messenger for mac by microsoft is a pile of crap. iPhoto doesn’t let you preview the photos before you import them. Same with iTunes with music files. The picture viewer for macs suck. You have you select all the pictures you want to see, not scroll through them like on windows. Also, you have to press ctrl and + and – to zoom in and out, not with your mouse wheel. (unless there are some hidden options). And last for the software that i’ve used : there is no MS paint!!! What the hell! I can’t take a screenshot, save it and upload it to the web really fast because there is no MS paint type program. Probably the most under rated program on a Windows computer.
When the mac freezes, which it has a couple of times for me, it’s almost impossible to freakign restart it! Force quit doesn’t work, shutdown doesn’t work, I had to go on a PC to look up that the restart button is on the BACK of the computer
So I have to navigate around a 24′ screen to press some stupid button on the back of the computer to restart the damn thing.
Another user said that using bootcamp is an emulator. This is incorrect. Bootcamp is simply a program that makes it easier to partition the hard drive of the mac in order to run other operating systems. Unfortunately, a PC has been able to do this for a long time and even run a mac OS. But why would we want to run that anyways? So we can run bootcamp?
Dave said,
March 18, 2009 at 9:11 pm
I also forgot to mention, there is no freaking dock menu to show you what programs are running or not. To bring up the windows that are running, you have to press F3 or something to bring them all up instead of easily seeing them at the bottom on the taskbar in XP. You CAN see open documents though on a mac. Just not the actual programs.
Also, a few corrections : I wrote ‘you’ instead of ‘to’ and 24′ instead of 24″ and possibly more.
Remi said,
April 13, 2009 at 12:40 pm
What i hate the most about macs is the people, they don’t know anything. Good for a 7 year old but after a while, you cant depend on others to fix macs problems. With a pc you can do anything. With macs, you can’t. Some people brag about mac games. i macs with 256 MB ati cards and 2 gig ram. My friend has 2000 MB graphic card with 6.0 GHZ he has 6 gigabyte ram ON HIS CUSTOMIZED PC. Macs can only dream of that, because the owners can’t upgrade and that level of customizing is unheard of. I always knew that STEVE JOBS is a pussy; HE HAS A HORMONE PROBLEM!! Besides mac geeks are just geeks that are so stupid that they depend on a mac that can do shit so easy with a click of a button. And they call themselves smart. U not smart when u can make gay pod casts; or play with sounds on garage band. Whats smart is when you can hack and script, also customize you’re computers. Mac dooches never heard of ram sticks; or GHZ. They play with them because there superficial pieces of plastic made in china. PC’s are not about image; they’re about whats inside!! AND THATS WHAT COUNTS THE MOST!
Bill said,
April 19, 2009 at 12:13 am
Well mac Sucks Entirely I have a g5 i mac with osx 10.3.9 installed and there is no way of updating to the current version I cant install itunes 8 so i download 7.6 the one i needed to restore my 3rd gen ipod nano to put music on because my pc took a dump because of an unfortunate user not knowing what the fuck he was doing, and after i gone through that whole process of downloading the software Ipod wont work unless osx 10.4.9 is installed pops up WTF APPLE I HAVE TO PAY 150 FUCKING DOLLARS TO just restore my ipod for it to work. No ty What is the reason for that PC releases free updates and software doesnt rely on the version of the os for it to work just the hardware I MEAN COME ON
AWESOME
josh said,
April 20, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I work at best buy at the geek squad… most people who are mac lovers i find… they dont know how to use a computer. You give them a mac it’s simple, to me mac is a kindergarden coloring book machine. It’s trash, waste of silicone. No customization, ALL THEIR CASES LOOK THE SAME. Some people say the get a mac to be a nonconformist…. OKAY… Some say your hardware is upgradable… just your ram to upgrade is not hardware upgradable… no game support… no real design program support. People using macs for graphics design are usually making stupid posters for their liberal hippie band. I see alot of hippies that use macs, maybe they’ve smoked themselves retarted so they can’t use a pc…. 5 yr. olds using computers are smarter than mac users, this is proved when m$ ran the add with the little asian girl emailing her pictures to her family… mac actually over complicates stuff if you come to think of it… Macs do get viruses and spyware i don’t know where the misconception that they didn’t came from, probably from another mac user that didn’t know how to use a COMPUTER.. and their price what is up with being 200% more than pc’s. that is ridiculous. as for mac being eco friendly, (global warming is bs im in school for mechanical engineering with focus in what normal people know as rocket engines i have to know emissions trust me…) there are recycling stations for old electronics at most modern electronic stores which means OMG either platform is eco friendly. I know, I know its hard to wrap your head around that one… basically i don’t use any mac products i’m entitled to my opinion, which my opinion has for facts behind it. OH and dont come to best buy with your mac. cause ill throw it down help the earth break it down faster, as for sueing me on that one, bite me. but im usually nice and turn you away.
hotelgirl said,
April 25, 2009 at 8:37 pm
i totally dont understand why macs are not called pc’s. they look exactly the same!!!!
josh said,
April 25, 2009 at 9:28 pm
um just an easier way to distinguish between the two. technically they are both personal computers though.
jesus christ said,
April 30, 2009 at 5:36 am
Either learn to spell or use the tool created by people much smarter than you called “spell check”.
Even a graffiti artist wouldn’t waste time reading that crap.
I iz t3h Mastir Chief said,
May 5, 2009 at 8:28 am
MACS SUCK
lololol said,
May 5, 2009 at 8:29 am
MAC=EPIC FAIL
Andrew said,
May 5, 2009 at 7:36 pm
This is gonna be first nice comment on here.
Have fun arguing silly silly people.
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John said,
May 18, 2009 at 5:49 pm
So i am on a mac right now and this thing sucks ass (mac book) for you see i am 14 years old and and what we all really want is to play games I only got a mac because my sister got it free from some program at school i might take but i will as for a Dell laptop because it it more fun and I can play all the games i want but if you want a mac all you can do is make music and videos and school work can do much but go on like myspace,facebook ad any other social site most of all macs i would say the only thing else you can do it watch videos and porn while pc’s can do way much more and you get right click who doesn’t like right click I mean cmon thats like the greats thing ever but not you got to buy one for a mac PC’s Win MAC’s lose and the reason you see those mac ad’s on tv is because mac even knows that their product sucks ass get OWNED Macs and yes i know this shit is very old (the site) but i just wanted to say how i feel on this subject and mac users who write something about my ideas you too also know macs suck
John said,
May 18, 2009 at 5:52 pm
FYI i am typing in the dark so go ahead and say something on my spelling
Johnny Haro said,
May 28, 2009 at 4:24 pm
OMG u guys are so gay and nerdy i came to this site by accident and Omg i said wat dorks and macs rock
Steve said,
June 2, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Functionality of the MAC aside…
Yes, putting aside the entire computer itself,
MAC’s suck balls because of their prissy, artsy, holier-than-thou ’subculture’, which can best be described with the word “Douchbags”
Seriously. Wearing turtlenecks and writing poetry does not make your computer platform better than any other. Get out of Starbucks and go do some fucking work.
That out of the way, Macs have all the appeal of the Star Wars prequels. Their colorful, flashy, and expensive, but lack substance of any kind.
Wow. your menu has a pretty animation when it opens.
How does that matter again?
Fuck Mac’s and their subculture.
….highbrow poetry writing latte’ sipping douchbags.
COVIZAPIBETEFOKY said,
June 9, 2009 at 2:25 pm
You all are retarded. Your PC won’t get viruses if you take care of it, dipshit.
COVIZAPIBETEFOKY said,
June 9, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Alexander said,
June 11, 2009 at 7:10 am
Just a few points.
4. You can get VLC on a Mac. Go download it today.
7. Learn to use Command+Q. If not, click File > Quit. If not, right click the dock icon, click Quit.
9. Function, control, alt (option), Windows key for Windows keyboards. Hmm. Same key count to me (you counted alt and option as separate when they’re the same key).
11. CLOCK. not DATE. If you wanna know the date, open dashboard with a tap of a key.
Jeffrey Bond said,
June 16, 2009 at 10:24 am
I love it. Great comparison. I have this argument all of time. PCs are simply better. People run out and get snookered by MAC and 3 days later they are trying to sell the thing on craigslist. “But MACS are Pretty,” I’ll take my ugly PC over an adorable MAC any day. It’s the inside that counts.
Techdude21 said,
June 17, 2009 at 1:01 pm
OK, i think one thing is for sure, Macs cant beat Linux, but do you see Linux fans go around saying that every minute no! Mac users also cant be quiet and just make stupid comments about how they are safer then windows and your wasting time using a PC, in a recent hacking competition a mac yes a mac fell first, so even if it was the wireless card had third party software that still means mac is not the most secure operating system in the whole world, yes windows might have lost of “viruses” but so does mac, and Linux, and no not just “Adware” or “Spyware” but Worms, Trojans, and if this world had a higher number of ASM coders we might just witness the worlds first mac rootkit “i dont know if there is one for macs” or witness the return of self reproducing viruses, so don’t try saying “oh macs are better then pc” because they don’t get many viruses doesn’t mean they are secure, if you do keep on buying macs, then we will see how the tables turn.
oh yeah
ps. The Penguin Rules
and just another add in,
why cant mac and windows open the source and allow people with ideas to make both brands better, this is how most Linux based operating systems work basically you find a way to do somthing, better, faster or even somthing new, just code, and release, plus people might just donate to give their thanks.
Techdude21 said,
June 17, 2009 at 1:05 pm
oh and by the way, The hacking competition in question, is on Youtube and also the target computers were Apple’s Leopard, Microsoft’s Vista and i think a Ubuntu as well
Techdude21 said,
June 17, 2009 at 1:49 pm
typo mistakes
its “lots of viruses” not “lost of viruses sorry about that”